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Mar 18, 2017





  • desertratfv47

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Almond trees suck up more water than any other fruit or vegetable. Same for any fruit bearing tree. Machines will never be able to do the delicate work that humans do. Plum and almond trees used to be shaken by machines that grabbed the bottom of trees, years later these trees were dead from the root balls being destroyed.







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rubypearl71




 


 





  • rubypearl71

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i see hiring signs everywhere, its just not farming industry. even my mfg company cannot find new hires. the problem with cheap immigrant labor is one, our already high population, and two, all the benefits taxpayers have to cover funding them and family. with lower population will require less workers.







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doc feelgood




 


 





  • doc feelgood

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Donald, keep your promises, give now the land to your Bundy riders and their grazing cows. Make the Great Plains of America great again. Hahahaha







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doc feelgood




 


 





  • doc feelgood

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Trump can force now his fans to take these jobs, these are the great part of these 25 millions miraculous he promised the American people. 

Hahahaha







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desertratfv47




 


 





  • desertratfv47

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@doc feelgood hire his cabinet, family and all his ex wives and his current foreign born wife. She can't talk English very well so she'll fit in with the others, except the one worker born here.







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Yo-Komo




 


 





  • Yo-Komo

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The guys that work on trawlers fishing for crabs off the coast of Alaska work long hard hours and it is dangerous work with many guys getting injured or killed. Why? Because they get a share of the profits, $50,000 and up. Farmers and ranchers need to wake up and do the same thing. Pay their workers a bonus at the end of the season, instead of keeping all the money for themselves. The bottom line is this. If it isn't profitable to farm or ranch, maybe it's time to sell the land and go into... » more







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petitoiseau




 


 





  • petitoiseau

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@Yo-Komo Then what will people eat? We need farmers. We need food. California feeds people all over the world.







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Tommy Vuu




 


 





  • Tommy Vuu

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Wow. Farmers voted for Trump because 

1) They hate immigrant helpers 

2) they hate TPP which would've increases farm exports 

3) they hate ex-im bank which also helps farm exports 

4) all of the above







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TruthOffends




 


 





  • TruthOffends

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There are 92 million able bodied men and women that are not working and can easily do farm labor work.







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desertratfv47




 


 





  • desertratfv47

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@TruthOffends would you?







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LA County is a Liberal Dump




 


 





  • LA County is a Liberal Dump

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Fake news







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skyred2




 


 





  • skyred2

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It was cheap labor for these farmers and don't believe farmers are paying more -another thing is automation,many are turning to machines to do this low paying /low skilled job - machines does it more quickly and effectively as some farmers in article realize, lack of workers evidently not the huge problem as this article makes it out to be.







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derekgrrrrr




 


 





  • derekgrrrrr

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@skyred2 

Then why did Trump make a big deal about undocumented immigrants taking away jobs if one day those positions would be taken up by robots? It's all a disingenuous ruse to demonize undocumented immigrants in the worst light possible to create a backlash against them as the group responsible for Americans being unemployed. Case in point: Jobs are being abandoned by undocumented immigrants, but like the article points out, but no American wants the job. That proves my point. The real... » more







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desertratfv47




 


 





  • desertratfv47

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@skyred2 machines damage alot of the crop.







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nomoredead




 


 





  • nomoredead

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" The comfort of the rich depends on an abundant supply of the poor. " Voltaire







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eljonez




 


 





  • eljonez

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@nomoredead Not any more. Unless, of course, you consider robots "the poor."







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derekgrrrrr




 


 





  • derekgrrrrr

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"Although Trump earned Klein’s vote, he worries that recent executive orders ratcheting up deportation plans and calling for a wall are putting a chokehold on an already tight pool of workers." - This is the farm owner who is complaining, in the article, of a labor shortage on his farm. Too little too late. He knew, before he voted for Trump, that his pool of undocumented labor would be threatened yet he voted for Trump anyways. Thanks LA Times for exposing people like this who voted against... » more







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cielos azules




 


 





  • cielos azules




Well, you don't need them veggies anyway, just more 100\% murkin beef.







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BombayBeach




 


 





  • BombayBeach

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I would be THRILLED to pay more for my food..THRILLED-if that meant illegals were out of here. Oh my goodness, I can only dream.







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budlite6




 


 





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@derekgrrrrr: Really? Are they paying $1000/hour? Nope. 

The story is about paying $15 to $20 per hour for seasonal work. At this point. they may not know the full Legal Market Rate for that job. Keep raising the wage until you can fill all of positions with legal workers. 

This is the same way that the wine farmers buy everything else. 

Do they say?: 

Fertilizer is too expensive, so I should steal it. 

Gas is too expensive for my farm equipment, so I should steal it. 

Grape vines are too... » more







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Myron Krebs




 


 





  • Myron Krebs 




@budlite6, oh stop with the "full Legal Market Rate" baloney. Supply and demand. What you make is a function of how much leverage you have. If you have no leverage you won't make much.







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straightspeaking




 


 





  • straightspeaking

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It amazes me that so many people want to come to our dying nation. I suppose the reason is that theirs is already dead...or perhaps their country was simply still born; never really alive and thriving.







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001dvs




 


 





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@straightspeaking It amazes me that so many americans are so un - educated to know that mexicans are returning to their country that was taken away from them in the mid 1800's by the good old USA.







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¿¿Que¿¿




 


 





  • ¿¿Que¿¿

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Brad Goerhring is the smart one. The dummies will refuse or be incapable of automating. 



The future of the farm with regards to labor has been automation, automation, automation, going all the way back to the sickle and then Eli Whitney's cotton gin, etc. 



Automation is also the answer for ridding our country of invaders.







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Ghost of Tivoli




 


 





  • Ghost of Tivoli

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@Myron Krebs Wrong again.Smartphones have only been around since 2005.Like every other technology the inefficiencies will be worked out and the economies of scale will be expanded.Just like the new driverless trucking technology,a premium will be placed on computer skills.The added bonus is that wages will rise and prices will fall due to competition.







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jimgrn




 


 





  • jimgrn

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@derekgrrrrr 



The 'Pilgrims' thing again? Shakes head, rolls eyes.







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rejco100




 


 





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Lets not all forget the farmer's free government price supports and farm aid checks...oh, and free checks NOT TO GROW ANYTHING.







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budlite6




 


 





  • budlite6

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@Kurfco: What about Rice? A low value crop with maximum water usage. It require free water and has crop price supports. Luckily, it probably does not use a lot of illegal labor.







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Myron Krebs




 


 





  • Myron Krebs

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@rejco100, where do you get that nonsense? While farm subsidies certainly exist for certain commodity crops like sorghum, wheat and corn, California farmers growing produce don't get any of that.
















Ghost of Tivoli




 


 





  • Ghost of Tivoli




The simple fix is a well thought-out reform of the agricultural guest worker program.PERIOD.That would have been a more responsible focus for journalist. 

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The United States currently has two guestworker programs for temporary work lasting less than a year: 



H-2A program, for temporary agricultural work, 

H-2B program, for temporary nonagricultural work. 



These programs allow employers to obtain permission to hire foreign workers on temporary visas after engaging in recruitment in the U.S. and... » more









 









HiramA




 


 





  • HiramA

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Actually, this a good but tragic situation that once again highlights the horror of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. No more can the filthy rich growers and greedy politicians, from Sacramento just ignore what they created. And that is the New Slavery brought to us by the Dem and Rep. parties. Barack Obama had TWO WHOLE YEARS TO FIX THIS MESS AND WHAT DID HE DO? Played golf!














Myron Krebs




 


 





  • Myron Krebs

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@HiramA, always a piece of work. And you really care about illegal immigrants, lol.







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SoCalBozo




 


 





  • SoCalBozo

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@derekgrrrrr my comfortable Starbucks pays more that minimum wage. They don't bake in the sun and get benefits. McDonald's does too.







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rejco100




 


 





  • rejco100

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Any American that showed up for one of those agra jobs may not be alive the next day; those are not American's jobs.







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Tito Flanders




 


 





  • Tito Flanders

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It's like the auto industry - they "couldn't" meet clean air admissions at a reasonable cost - until they had to.





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